I guess to sum up our disagreements I’m saying that economic factors will be the primary decider for 99%. This is how our federal government is pushing change now, with money. I want to clean up my footprint and it’s economically viable for me to do so with the PHEV now, the solar on my house, my business and our garden. However there are a lot of considerations and consequences to looking at it from an environmental only perspective, which it seems is inextricably tied to politics. The technology is not there yet environmentally or economically and we need to carefully plot a course through the middle ground. Some of the ideas about green energy will forever be impossible, this I attribute to a failure to understand the realities of how they work and the inevitable economics of it all. I think we are doing a great job and headed in the right direction, but some will never be satisfied and a lot of that comes from a top down perspective of privilege politically anyways. As I worked my way up from the bottom in the rust belt, I cannot help but see the other end. There is a clear social economic perspective on this and all EV message boards, we should be mindful where most GM customers are coming from and not forget about them.
The people who can afford to buy my solar systems and get federal tax benefits are clearly in the upper middle class. Same applies for the people getting full EV tax credits. With more then 60% if the country now living paycheck to paycheck, there is a huge disconnect politically.
For someone who doesn't want to discuss politics; you seem to see things from a political lens. I think you should consider that it sounds like you've chosen to assign a political agenda onto topics that most had zero intention of having a political slant. (@EVTrucking please correct me if I'm wrong), discussing a desire to reduce carbon emissions in a truck that we could live with every day was just that... no politics.
If you think there's a political undertone (Donkey vs Elephant) around policy, agendas, privilege, etc ... that's on you. That includes bringing in geo-political (China vs USA) or brining in socio-political (poor vs wealthy) topics. While I agree major things affecting millions of people have many potentially political influences and externalities; forum banter talking about BEV/PHEV batteries is likely a conversation about the technology. Anyway, I urge you to please consider that some of us aren't simply considering economic or political factors for deciding on solar or EV investment. Some simply want to reduce carbon-emissions or reduce reliance on status quo energy providers.
But since you brought it up; California's utilities and the California PUC have also claimed that "solar benefits the upper-middle class". They have posited that Solar is only a bastion for wealthy people to transfer costs to lower classes. But, research suggests that many classes of people have benefited from solar. It's not a gate-kept technology for only a few. Also, the technology around solar has finally begun to mature to the extent that solar is now being enjoyed at the same distribution of income levels seen with home ownership. That means almost anyone with a home could enjoy the benefits of solar. So, it's kind of sad that now that solar is attainable by the majority, the California utilities want to slow residential solar adoption.
Middle-income and working-class Californians represented by far the largest block of the million-plus households in the state that installed rooftop solar in 2021, according to a new Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory study.
On a related note, I think BEV, PHEV, Hydrogen, and other clean-vehicle-tech are also in their infancy. It's likely the upper classes enjoy a disproportionate benefit now. But as the technology matures, we should see the benefits becoming attainable by all - including people in the "Rust Belt". Where I hope you and I align is on the concept that these trends are favorable and something we hope companies continue to invest in to make a reality.