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Surprising move by GM, they're starting to obfuscate dealer markup into their own corporate websites

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GM seems to have taken a page from a rather poor playbook... .

As many of you are aware, dealerships are allowed to add what is commonly referred to as "additional dealer markup" (ADM) to vehicles. This practice is usually legal, because the dealership owns the property, and a dealership is allowed to price their property as they see fit. Where this practice starts to run afoul is if the ADM is hidden or is otherwise obfuscated causing confusion for the buyer.

Just to be clear, I am individually not a fan of ADM because I don't like to pay too much money. But, I respect ADM and believe it is the dealer's prerogative to advertise ADM clearly and transact as the law allows.

For this post, I am disappointed that GM publicly issues "warnings" to dealers about ADM, but then GM turns around and helps the dealers hide ADM.

In a perfect world, the dealer markup would be itemized and clearly disclosed as an upward pricing adjustment. GM used to clearly show MSRP and separately show ADM where it was aware of the practice. But now, GM is burying ADM on their website, which I've never seen before. GM seems to be aiding the dealers in a rather subtle way that I think is poor form given the negative sentiment against recent pricing practices.

Some dealership started to skirt into deceptive trade practices where they disguised the ADM as something else. For example, charging a buyer $10,000 for a window tint as a "mandatory option". And another exampe, the dealership is not allowed to wrongfully represent the ADM as a pass-through cost imposed by GM or something factually inaccurate.

The FTC has identified some issues, and they proposed language to codify more consumer protection around deceptive ADM.

Anyway, here's the example of what GM is doing now. Normally, GM on its own websites will simply show MSRP of dealers tock. And then they would put an asterisk about how final pricing is managed by the dealers. The key is they would itemize the ADM so a prospective buyer was presented with the ADM in a clear way. But check out these two GMC vehicles pulled from GMC.com.


Vehicle 1
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Vehicle 2
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For both vehicles, here is the footnote disclosure.
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Vehicle 1 is no longer itemizing the ADM. It simply jumps from MSRP to the "Net Price with Dealer Fees" GM used to show the itemized difference, but now they stopped with the disclosure. This is very subtle, and a telling sign to me that GM is in favor of ADM since it's assisting the dealer in hiding it.

Vehicle 2 is doing what GM used to presente. Where the "Net Price with Dealer Fees" is explained and there is no doubt what is in the higher dealer price compared to MSRP.

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Good point out and writeup. It is somewhere between sad and FTC action worthy that ADM is at all obfuscated by dealers themselves, or GM.

What I cannot agree with you about is the acceptability of ADM by dealers. If they were not abusing the legal system to get themselves mandated into the middle, then yes ADM would be closer to morally acceptable.

After recently completing my first direct from OEM vehicle purchase process, I am more convinced than ever that dealers do not add any value to the chain. If they want to participate in a free market economy let em compete without laws enforcing a pseudo-monopoly.
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Good point out and writeup. It is somewhere between sad and FTC action worthy that ADM is at all obfuscated by dealers themselves, or GM.

What I cannot agree with you about is the acceptability of ADM by dealers. If they were not abusing the legal system to get themselves mandated into the middle, then yes ADM would be closer to morally acceptable.

After recently completing my first direct from OEM vehicle purchase process, I am more convinced than ever that dealers do not add any value to the chain. If they want to participate in a free market economy let em compete without laws enforcing a pseudo-monopoly.

Yeah, I'm torn on the ADM thing...

ADM is clearly a consumer un-friendly approach. The basis to attempt a transaction at the "exact value" of that particular buyer/seller is known as second degree price discrimination. This is very common. Especially with higher margin/value transactions involving real property like homes, home-improvement, and vehicles. It's also common with the likes of eBay and Ticketmaster. Can you imagine if home buying was solely based on comps or what Fannie Mae would appraise a home at? Second degree price discrimination can be done fairly and effectively.

And similarly, I like being able to go into a dealer showroom and haggling or otherwise customizing a transaction to suit me. So getting the benefit of clearly communicated price discounts means a dealer should benefit from a price increase if it's clearly communicated.

I just hate the way the auto industry has evolved where they hold all the information/power and force a very consumer unfriendly script that focuses on stressors to maximize margins. So yeah, DTC with flat pricing is a much better flow for consumers.

I think we'll see how Tesla, Rivian, Lucid, and other DTC automakers fare during the next big recession when demand pulls back hard. Historically, the financing and business operations of the dealer network acted as a shock absorber to dampen the impact of rising inventories and slowing sell-through. The dealer network also allowed net pricing to be adjusted within specific regions since dealers were supposed to know their local markets better than the corporate HQ could manage with a flat pricing for all. Of course, we saw in the last financial few financial crises... the shock absorber is prone to breakage and federal money has to come in to back-stop everything. So, the dealer model didn't live up to its end of the bargain on propping up the industry since the dealer model is antiquated and poorly executed.

Regardless, the current laws are what they are. They allow for dynamic pricing where the dealers can add ADM as long as it's done fairly/clearly. GM is double-speaking by telling dealers to not whack people with ADM, while simultaneously helping dealers hide ADM on GM's websites. Very disappointing.
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My dealership has told me they will sell at MSRP, if they didn’t I wouldn’t buy it. Obviously people are and that’s why the dealerships get away with it. As an alternative perspective on direct sales, I need service on my Tesla and I’ve scheduled the first available mobile service appointment on May 1st. My wife’s Toyota needs service and we scheduled for tomorrow at the dealership.
My dealership has told me they will sell at MSRP, if they didn’t I wouldn’t buy it. Obviously people are and that’s why the dealerships get away with it. As an alternative perspective on direct sales, I need service on my Tesla and I’ve scheduled the first available mobile service appointment on May 1st. My wife’s Toyota needs service and we scheduled for tomorrow at the dealership.

Yep, Toyota won't hide ADM on their corporate site. GM was also transparent on their corporate websites about ADM... until very recently. Honestly this isn't a huge deal. Like there are much worse things going on in the world.

It's just another disappointing action from GM. Then again, is anyone surprised that Detroit automakers say one thing but then do another?

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