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Silverado EV range and kwh vs F-150

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efbolt

Discussion Starter · 9 mo ago

I'm a Bolt owner with a Silverado EV reservation.

I've been reading up on the coming EV truck options and noticed something that didn't make sense to me.

I've seen some reviews imply that--since the Silverado is built as an EV from the ground up--its aerodynamics are part of the reason it'll have better range than the F-150.

But the caranddriver article I read says the Silverado will have 400 miles from a 200 kwh battery whereas the F-150 gets 300 miles from a 131 kwh battery.

So that would mean more range for the Silverado overall but more miles/kwh with the F-150.

That's not what I would have expected if the Silverado EV was more aerodynamic. Can anyone make sense of this? Perhaps Chevy is just being coy...

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Holeydonut

· #2 · 9 mo ago

F150 Lightning is about 6,000 lbs… the Silverado EV could be almost as heavy as the Hummer EV at 8,000 lbs to 9,000 lbs.

2 miles per kWh is likely an optimistic figure in the real world. Some Rivian and Lightning owners are experiencing 1.5 miles per kWh even without towing since EPA figures can be hard to achieve.

efbolt

Discussion Starter · #3 · 9 mo ago

I would think that there still shouldn't be that big of a gap in miles per kwh if the Silverado EV is indeed significantly more aerodynamic than the F-150. Sounds like we need some real world highway speed testing from Edmunds and Caranddriver. Different animal but I'm generally in the 3.1 to 3.9 range with my Bolt at highway speeds with the AC on.

It'd be nice to know whether 2.0 is a realistic value for the Silverado EV or not. Could be a factor in deciding which battery to opt for.

HawaiiEV

· #4 · 9 mo ago

Aerodynamics would help on the highway, not around town. Weight hurts in stop and go driving. Likely to be a wash, still a giant heavy brick. The bolt and teslas are at the top around 3.8, my wife’s car and ones like the EV6 are around 3.4. I think 2.0 is probably a very realistic number for the Silverado, keeps in line with ICE efficiency. A Chevy spark might get close to 40 mpg highway, where a CUV would be about 34 mpg and a full size truck might be just under 20 mpg if you are lucky, way worse around town do to weight.
I think Chevy did everything they could to achieve a range closer to a tank of gas for the silverado ev, so it has a huge battery and it’s gonna be a heavy beast.

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HawaiiEV

· #5 · 9 mo ago

In theory the lower KWh pack for the Silverado should be an efficiency winner over the lightening, probably similar range to the top spec lighting pack.

ChargedSilvE

· #6 · 9 mo ago

Welcome @efbolt, what Silverado EV spec are you getting?

efbolt

Discussion Starter · #7 · 9 mo ago

ChargedSilvE said:
Welcome @efbolt, what Silverado EV spec are you getting?

I haven't decided yet. Generally would prefer extended range possibly with air suspension.

I'm interested in the miles per kwh because experience has taught me that speed matters. I see a noticeable difference in efficiency driving to work at 35-45 mph vs 45-55 in my Bolt.

Range, for me, comes into play when I take day trips to nearby cities which generally means speeds 65‐75 mph. That's why I'd like to get real world data at those speeds because that's when range really matters for me.

EVTrucking

· #8 · 9 mo ago

What is the expected range of the Silverado EV two years from now? Seems like a lot could/will change by the time it goes into production.

My R1T gets around 1.7 to 1.9 mi/kWhr at 70-75 mph on fairly level ground in 90F with fool climate control and audio. The battery pack is 134 kW/hr. I am sure that in two years from now the Silverado EV will blow that away.

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efbolt

Discussion Starter · #9 · 9 mo ago

EVTrucking said:
What is the expected range of the Silverado EV two years from now? Seems like a lot could/will change by the time it goes into production.

My R1T gets around 1.7 to 1.9 mi/kWhr at 70-75 mph on fairly level ground in 90F with fool climate control and audio. The battery pack is 134 kW/hr. I am sure that in two years from now the Silverado EV will blow that away.

Actually, I found a caranddriver article that tested over a dozen EVs at 75 mph vs their EPA range.

Hummer was 290 miles @75mph vs 329 EPA
R1T 280 vs 314
And F-150 230 vs 300

So to me Chevy is likely being more conservative than Ford.

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EVTrucking

· #10 · 9 mo ago

Good article.

As mentioned before IMO the range numbers in two years when the Silverado EV finally makes it too market will be quite a bit better.

HawaiiEV

· #11 · 9 mo ago

Should perform better in range then the hummer, especially on the highway. Maybe it can achieve 400 in this test.

EVTrucking

· #12 · 9 mo ago

HawaiiEV said:
Should perform better in range then the hummer, especially on the highway. Maybe it can achieve 400 in this test.

I agree that the Silverado EV should/will perform better than the Hummer EV.

I am expecting the range to be 400+ miles.

Unfortunately I am expecting the price to be well north of $100k + substantial dealer markup.

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BahamaTodd

· #13 · 9 mo ago

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You should also note that the actual capacity of the F150 is 107.6 kWh and 143.4 kWh. The 131 kWh and 98 kWh are usable capacities.

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BahamaTodd

· #14 · 9 mo ago

If the fully loaded RST can get 400 miles, I expect a 200 kWh WT could exceed 420 miles.

Oldfart

· #15 · 9 mo ago

I have a Lightning Platinum extended range. Weighs 8550# according to the window sticker and I average a little north of 2 miles / kw and I don’t baby it at all, I have a very heavy right foot.

BahamaTodd

· #16 · 9 mo ago

Oldfart said:
I have a Lightning Platinum extended range. Weighs 8550# according to the window sticker and I average a little north of 2 miles / kw and I don’t baby it at all, I have a very heavy right foot.

8550 lbs is your GVWR which is the weight of the truck plus the max payload. Your truck weighs about 6500 lbs.

Oldfart

· #17 · 9 mo ago

Thank you. You are correct. My misinterpretation of the weight categorization. The Platinum has the lesser carrying capacity of all the trim levels, Pro, XLT, or Lariat. Another fact not mentioned in the video. Along with Silverado only having two trim levels.

I do have a day 1 WT / RST reservation. Looking forward to the Silverado EV launch.

BahamaTodd

· #18 · 9 mo ago

This Hummer EV has averaged 2 mi/kWh over 10,000 miles which would result in 400 miles from its 200 kWh battery.

If the Silverado is over 20% more efficient than the Hummer it could be closing in on 500 miles.

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HawaiiEV

· #19 · 9 mo ago

I wonder what mix of highway and city that hummer drives and also what speed on the highway? I
Assume they are driving mostly city and very slow on the highway. I think based on that a more typical use would be closer to 1.8 miles per kWh and the Silverado would be right at 2.0 miles per kWh, kinda keeps with my theory of roughly matching comparable gas mileage in the ICE versions of similar vehicles.

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