[HawaiiEV]

You know what could fix all this? Modern, cheap nuclear power. I see it as an essential part of an EV future with fossil fuel free winters.

 

[Holeydonut]

You know what could fix all this? Modern, cheap nuclear power. I see it as an essential part of an EV future with fossil fuel free winters.

If your state won't allow inter-island ferries because some whale could be injured ... I don't think your state is going to allow any new nuclear power plant. What we all need is that Mr. Fusion in Back to the Future.

California has one single nuclear power plant that policymakers desperately want to decommission because they are worried about the environmental fallout of a terri-bad disaster during their tenure. But alas, nobody has a solution to replace the stable 2.2 GW constant base load provided by Diablo Canyon.

I like on paper what Europe has done to standardize its reactors and find ways to operate them efficiently. But I keep hearing Europe sucks at energy policy, so what do I know.

Geothermal is cool though... too bad we can't get that here in Northern California.

 

[HawaiiEV]

Hawaii is good with Geothermal, imported fossil fuels and Solar+storage at home as it makes sense for us. I think it’s time to spend some of those federal green energy funds on modern nuclear power plants for the rest of the country where green energy options are limited and cannot solve the baseload problem. This is the only thing that makes sense and we are long past due to overcome the fear of 50 year old nuclear technology and try some of the new stuff.

 

[akldjian]

I wanted a vertical windmill farm in the back yard. The HOA said NO!!! FWIW, my wife is the president of the HOA. LMAO.

 

[EVTrucking]

I wanted a vertical windmill farm in the back yard. The HOA said NO!!! FWIW, my wife is the president of the HOA. LMAO.

I don’t think our HOA will allow wind turbines either but by law they could not stop us from installing rooftop solar.

 

[HawaiiEV]

Windmills are terrible, I agree with the HOA

 

[Holeydonut]

What about...

(PS, I know all this is as fake as a BEV truck that costs $39,995 before DFC. But we can dream.)


One of ya'll that owns a PV+ESS company should try installing this though... they have a distributor in Hawaii!

Advanced WindWall® - American Wind, Inc

americanwindinc.com

 

[akldjian]

I wanted to follow-up on the EV vs ICE discussion for large fleet vehicles. I just spoke to my Amazon delivery guy. He said that their routes are a maximum of 60 miles a day. He said new Rivian EV delivery vehicles can do 2-2.5 times that range, fully loaded. I didn't realize it, but they have 3 different sizes of electric vans. It seems that for Amazon at least, EV is way more effective than ICE. According to the delivery guy, they don't have any battery capacity problems with overnight charging. I suspect they have a very robust DC fast charging setup. Anyway, thought I share. Of course this isn't scientific evidence, but more and more, I'm convinced that the article could be sponsored, biased propaganda.

 

[HawaiiEV]

Observational science is still science, not everything has to be double blind or peer reviewed. The article could just be clickbait, however the truth is for most people’s vehicle use now, an ICE would be cheaper and more convenient, it’s not complicated math.

 

[Holeydonut]

Hopefully once they electrify their fleet, the USPS, UPS, FedEx, DHL, and Amazon delivery workers get air conditioning in their vehicles. Making folks suffer 110+ F heat because AC compressors are too expensive/polluting to run at idle with ICE motors is so 20th century.

https://jalopnik.com/ups-refuses-to-install-air-conditioning-in-150-degree-d-1849377501

 

[nebula1701]

Hopefully once they electrify their fleet, the USPS, UPS, FedEx, DHL, and Amazon delivery workers get air conditioning in their vehicles. Making folks suffer 110+ F heat because AC compressors are too expensive/polluting to run at idle with ICE motors is so 20th century.

https://jalopnik.com/ups-refuses-to-install-air-conditioning-in-150-degree-d-1849377501

HVAC is standard in the Brightdrop trucks.

 

[Holeydonut]

HVAC is standard in the Brightdrop trucks.

Awesome, good to hear.

You know it's sad when UPS tells it drivers that air conditioning won't help the cab or cargo components of their trucks since the trucks are "too big" or "the door opens/closes too much". How stupid does UPS think its drivers are? UPS just doesn't want to pay the fuel or climate-carbon-hit to idle the ICE trucks and keep the AC running.

 

[HawaiiEV]

I didn’t think the LLV has AC, I assume the replacement will.

edit: LLV has never had AC, NGDV will. Confused UPS with USPS

 

[Burbman]

Your MME is getting 4.5 miles per kWh? You don’t drive highway? That’s a lot higher than I’ve ever heard for that car including my brothers. Thats about what my bosses model 3 gets without driving highway in Hawaii, which we don’t have.

Real world numbers on the MME - Last Sunday, ambient temperature ~40* F, Approximately 50% freeway, 50% surface streets, 70.6 miles driven, 16.4kWh, avg 4.3 mi/kWh according to the car
Saturday , similar temperature, all surface streets, 45.4 miles driven, 5.5 kWh, avg 8.3 mi/kWh

Most trips are shorter than these, and averages get kinda wonky.

 

[HawaiiEV]

Very impressive. I don’t really believe it. My Model Y is getting exactly 4 miles per kWh over its first 660 miles, no highway. Boss gets about 4.5 in his model 3 and wife gets 3.4 in the prime. All numbers that make sense and correlate well with EPA ratings. MME getting 4.5 with highway driving just doesn’t make sense.

 

[Burbman]

Very impressive. I don’t really believe it. My Model Y is getting exactly 4 miles per kWh over its first 660 miles, no highway. Boss gets about 4.5 in his model 3 and wife gets 3.4 in the prime. All numbers that make sense and correlate well with EPA ratings. MME getting 4.5 with highway driving just doesn’t make sense.

Here is the raw data for the past week - the two mile trips were driven by a teenage boy FWIW

8.3 mi - 2.7mi/kWh
2 mi - 1.5 mi/kWh
1.9 mi - 1.9 mi/kWh
8.7 mi - 2.7 mi/kWh
2.5 mi - 2.1 mi/kWh
10.1 mi - 2.4 mi/kWh
2 mi - 1.3 mi/kWh
1.9 mi - 1.8mi/kWh
8.7 mi - 3.2 mi/kWh
2.5 mi - 2.8 mi/kWh
8.3 mi - 2.8 mi/kWh
2 mi - 1.2 mi/kWh
1.9 mi - 1.9mi/kWh
8.7mi - 3.2 mi/kWh
8.3 mi - 2.6 mi/kWh
70.6 mi - 4.3 mi/kWh
19.1 mi - 3.4 mi/kWh
45.4 mi - 8.3 mi/kWh
33.4 mi - 222.5 mi/kWh??? looks like computer glitched
30.5 mi - 2.7 mi/kWh
8.3 mi - 4.0 mi/kWh
5.5 mi - 5.8 mi/kWh
1.8 mi - 3.3 mi/kWh
0.9 mi - 1.2 mi/kWh
4.8 mi - 1.8 mi/kWh
6.8 mi - 3.8 mi/kWh
1.9 mi - 1.2 mi/kWh
1.8 mi - 18.0 mi/kWh lots of regen
6.3 mi - 3.4 mi/kWh
4.6 mi - 2.2 mi/kWh

Daily high temps have been in the mid to high 40s.

 

[HawaiiEV]

That’s a terrible way to look at the data, but clearly your average is much lower. Is there not a way to see your average over time? I would expect somewhere around 3.5.

 

[Burbman]

All I can see on the app is trip by trip. I would really like to see the splits by driver, since my son obviously has a lead foot.

 

[HawaiiEV]

In the car you can’t get since charged or a continuous trip a or b?

 

[Burbman]

Not that I have been able to find. Every mfgr has their own way of presenting things. I recall that one of the online presenters did a side by side comparison of the Lightning and Hummer, and they commented on the fact that they had a hard time doing an apples to apples comparison since GM and Ford present usage in different layouts.