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Do you think waiting 18-36 months to receive(in your driveway) a GM/Chevy EV truck is worth the wait? Or is waiting the only option?

If you are into the EV conversion from ICE then why not hunt down an F150 Lightning (new or used) or a R1T? If you don’t NEED an EV truck then there is a large selection to go after


If EV conversion from ICE is not your thing then why wait? Grab the ICE you want now and ride with that until you want/need something else. Note: Big difference between Want and Need!

IMO the Big 3 will stick to the tried and true ICE script for EV trucks. Each will keep their market share. F150 Lightning will out sell all and everything will follow from there. None of the Big three will differentiate themselves with better anything. Same marketing crap, same dealership crap …… same ole everything.

GM/Chevy marketing has revealed a huge number of potential EV models but as yet has not delivered much of anything.
 

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For $100 it is worth the wait. So far GM has the only EV options able to carry full size sheet lumber home under cover and with the tailgate closed.
Does it being an EV have anything to do with waiting or is it just the mid-gate and inexpensive reservation? By waiting you mean are making do with what you have? Or is there an interim plan?
 

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If I HAD to have a truck today, I would. For now I can rent one when I need it.
I am retired but in the past I went the truck rental route for a while. Always came back to owning one, even if I only used it occasionally as a truck.

I waited for (18months) for my R1T not because it was a truck but because it was an EV first and a truck secondly.

Since current and near term EV truck offerings are not capable of towing range wise like current ICEs I don’t understand why so many folks would choose to wait 2-3 yrs instead of getting what they want now and deciding again in 5-10 years. It would be understandable however if they were into supporting the switch to EV.
 

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My ICE Silverado will stay, regardless of whether I end up buying Silverado EV or not. Therefore the potential wait is not a factor for me. I don’t NEED an EV truck, I just happen to WANT one. Chevy, that is.

I’m not considering any other brands or options at this point. If the price goes way above what I’ve been thinking as my max, which most likely will be the case, somebody else can have my reservation. No skin off my back.
 

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For our houeshold, a BEV truck is something we're looking forward to... and is worth the wait. I don't have the gumption to try and be a first-first adopter (Rivian or Hummer EV), but I think the Silverado or Sierra EV will worth the wait as the bugs get worked out. I'm also in the Cybertruck queue, but I doubt I'll get the CT if my turn ever comes up to take delivery (GM will really need to drop the ball for me to get the CT now).

The motivator for me is not really some thing to come out ahead with savings. We want to make a small impact to how our energy consumption affects our environment for our kids. We don't want to sit on the sidelines and just complain about what others are doing (or not doing). Rather, we want to make some difference wherever we can. I was a stupid Tesla Stan. My garage wall is covered in Tesla Powerwall 2s, I had a stupid Tesla logo on my gutter box connecting everything, and I have two Tesla Wall Connectors on a master/slave configuration. But I'm going with another brand for my next vehicle.

We also have as big of a solar array as we can fit on the roof. This enables us to be ~85% "off-grid" of sorts, where 85% of the annual home energy needs are self-powered (sun charges the on-premises batteries, and the batteries sustain the daily energy cycle). Unfortunately, the winter months just don't see enough sun, so we rely on excess NEM exports in the Summer to provide credit to power the home in the Winter during cloudy days.

Getting BEV vehicles is yet another attempt to actually make a difference to our carbon footprint. You don't have to go far to find EV Naysayers who post on every GM Authority article about EVs. Or the trolls in the comment sections of FLT videos on Youtube. These anti-EV-ers always spout the sophomoric lines from FoxNews that the grid is dirty so charging an EV with the grid is bad. The simple solution to this lazy thinking is to charge the EV with solar.

I'm glad you all are actually trying to make a difference by going EV; instead of listening to the naysayers that it's not worth the effort to get BEVs or PHEVs. There are too many people who find reasons not to do something. And the anti-EV crowd loves doing nothing while complaining about rising gas prices. So to me, these BEV trucks are well worth the wait; and an ICE will simply not be a reasonable replacement. I'm going to be one of the lame-azz losers who gets the truck to basically move some kiddos around and pick up crap from the furniture store or hardware store. I'm so annoyed when crap doesn't fit in this CUV Volvo lol.

Anyway, my wife's Model 3 is ~85% daytime charged with solar from the home (or daytime solar provided by CAISO). My PHEV Volvo is only about 40% electric charged, but getting rid of this, and switching to a Sierra EV means being able to charge with daytime solar (from my home or the grid) and getting around ~85%. We don't know how much of a difference such efforts will make to our environmental future, but we gotta try! Also, California's utilities keep complaining that there is too much solar production (residential + large-scale-commercial), so let's use that excess to charge some EV batteries!
 

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I want the midgate and I want to run off my solar. I’m at a point in my life where I can afford a nice new truck, but I’m not going to pay double GMs advertised starting price.
 

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For our houeshold, a BEV truck is something we're looking forward to... and is worth the wait. I don't have the gumption to try and be a first-first adopter (Rivian or Hummer EV), but I think the Silverado or Sierra EV will worth the wait as the bugs get worked out. I'm also in the Cybertruck queue, but I doubt I'll get the CT if my turn ever comes up to take delivery (GM will really need to drop the ball for me to get the CT now).

The motivator for me is not really some thing to come out ahead with savings. We want to make a small impact to how our energy consumption affects our environment for our kids. We don't want to sit on the sidelines and just complain about what others are doing (or not doing). Rather, we want to make some difference wherever we can. I was a stupid Tesla Stan. My garage wall is covered in Tesla Powerwall 2s, I had a stupid Tesla logo on my gutter box connecting everything, and I have two Tesla Wall Connectors on a master/slave configuration. But I'm going with another brand for my next vehicle.

We also have as big of a solar array as we can fit on the roof. This enables us to be ~85% "off-grid" of sorts, where 85% of the annual home energy needs are self-powered (sun charges the on-premises batteries, and the batteries sustain the daily energy cycle). Unfortunately, the winter months just don't see enough sun, so we rely on excess NEM exports in the Summer to provide credit to power the home in the Winter during cloudy days.

Getting BEV vehicles is yet another attempt to actually make a difference to our carbon footprint. You don't have to go far to find EV Naysayers who post on every GM Authority article about EVs. Or the trolls in the comment sections of FLT videos on Youtube. These anti-EV-ers always spout the sophomoric lines from FoxNews that the grid is dirty so charging an EV with the grid is bad. The simple solution to this lazy thinking is to charge the EV with solar.

I'm glad you all are actually trying to make a difference by going EV; instead of listening to the naysayers that it's not worth the effort to get BEVs or PHEVs. There are too many people who find reasons not to do something. And the anti-EV crowd loves doing nothing while complaining about rising gas prices. So to me, these BEV trucks are well worth the wait; and an ICE will simply not be a reasonable replacement. I'm going to be one of the lame-azz losers who gets the truck to basically move some kiddos around and pick up crap from the furniture store or hardware store. I'm so annoyed when crap doesn't fit in this CUV Volvo lol.

Anyway, my wife's Model 3 is ~85% daytime charged with solar from the home (or daytime solar provided by CAISO). My PHEV Volvo is only about 40% electric charged, but getting rid of this, and switching to a Sierra EV means being able to charge with daytime solar (from my home or the grid) and getting around ~85%. We don't know how much of a difference such efforts will make to our environmental future, but we gotta try! Also, California's utilities keep complaining that there is too much solar production (residential + large-scale-commercial), so let's use that excess to charge some EV batteries!
We are in many ways in the same camp of thought as you. Going EV will not save the environment or the human race but does seem to be a step or two in the right direction. The bolted door to EV and solar has finally been kicked open despite big oil, coal, the car industry and Government.

We are set for now in terms having EVs but will continue to wait and hold onto the $100.00 reservation as a just in-case. Really enjoy my R1T but still quite uncertain about durability/reliability with no local support from a brand new company. As much as I see dealerships as corrupt they do provide local support, which they make a lot of money doing. The Silverado EV is a decent looking truck and should at least be on par with other EV trucks for all other metrics.

I have never tried to justify moving to solar or EV financially. When we could afford to go solar on our home we did so because it seemed to be the right thing to do. The same is true of going EV. 16 years ago when we could afford a 2007 Prius we started on the journey to EV. Having solar(home ownership) + EV + mostly local driving is very convenient and satisfying but is also costly to implement and is not in most folks grasp. Especially if they ignore the car exhaust and particles they suck in each day as they drive or walk outside and are unwilling to make any sacrifices to change that.

If other EV Truck manufactures offer reservations we will probably get in line ASAP. As I have posted numerous times, I will not pay ADE (Added Dealer Extortion) or as most would say ADM (Added Dealer Markup).
 

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I want the midgate and I want to run off my solar. I’m at a point in my life where I can afford a nice new truck, but I’m not going to pay double GMs advertised starting price.
Agreed except that the mid-gate is a none issue for me.

Running off mostly solar is quite satisfying. The cost of going solar was steep but in a way was pre-paying for our current and future electricity while reducing the carbon load on the grid. Each time I pull into my driveway and catch a glimpse of our solar panels it feels right.
 

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I am honestly not looking for a new vehicle today, my current car will probably be retired in 2025, so for the $100 it made sense for me to get a reservation and wait. I am only looking at BEV or PHEV for my next vehicle so the BEV truck is a bonus.
 
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